Lifeskills coaching thread from 50+


As promised to January....

Lifeskills Coaching
january
I can't remember what show I was watching on t.v. but the person being interviewed talked so highly about their life coach.

They apparently can help with everything in one's life.

•Relationships and Intimacy
•Stress Management and Balance
•Spirituality and Personal Growth
•Entrepreneurial and Small Business Development
•Career Planning and Development
•Motivation and Time Management
•Creativity for Artists, Writers, Musicians and Performers
•Finances and Budgeting
•Health, Aging, Lifestyle and Self-Care
•Family and Parenting
•And much more

http://www.lifecoaching.com/pages/life_coaching.html

Do any of you have any experience with a life coach that made a change in your life?

Should us older folks be thinking about hiring one? I know where I live there are none advertising their service. I think I'd have to go to Vancouver.

It seems pretty easy to become one. Any thoughts ?
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ms. lizzie
QUOTE (january @ Mar 28 2010, 02:01 PM)
I can't remember what show I was watching on t.v. but the person being interviewed talked so highly about their life coach.

They apparently can help with everything in one's life.

•Relationships and Intimacy
•Stress Management and Balance
•Spirituality and Personal Growth
•Entrepreneurial and Small Business Development
•Career Planning and Development
•Motivation and Time Management
•Creativity for Artists, Writers, Musicians and Performers
•Finances and Budgeting
•Health, Aging, Lifestyle and Self-Care
•Family and Parenting
•And much more

http://www.lifecoaching.com/pages/life_coaching.html

Do any of you have any experience with a life coach that made a change in your life?

Should us older folks be thinking about hiring one? I know where I live there are none advertising their service. I think I'd have to go to Vancouver.

It seems pretty easy to become one. Any thoughts ?

Does it not strike you odd that for centuries, people were able to walk through and experience life without the benefit of a life coach or a life skills guru? What has happened that now this is the "in" thing to do? I suspect it is merely a hocus pocus money making venture for those who fancy themselves better or a cut above the rest of the population to relieve others of their money. Most of life can be whittled down and looked at in common sense terms. Why pay someone for something that has been done for free for centuries?

It seems pretty easy to become one. And that, in itself, is pretty scary indeed. What is now happening is wannabe pop psychologists with really no credentials are doling out information and advice to other people on how to live their lives when often times their own life is in a shambles.

Any thoughts ? Yup, my thoughts are those providing services such as described above are nothing more than the old fashioned snake oil salesman or, in modern day terms, a rip off and scam artist.
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january
QUOTE (ms. lizzie @ Mar 28 2010, 01:12 PM)
Does it not strike you odd that for centuries, people were able to walk through and experience life without the benefit of a life coach or a life skills guru? What has happened that now this is the "in" thing to do? I suspect it is merely a hocus pocus money making venture for those who fancy themselves better or a cut above the rest of the population to relieve others of their money. Most of life can be whittled down and looked at in common sense terms. Why pay someone for something that has been done for free for centuries?

It seems pretty easy to become one. And that, in itself, is pretty scary indeed. What is now happening is wannabe pop psychologists with really no credentials are doling out information and advice to other people on how to live their lives when often times their own life is in a shambles.

Any thoughts ? Yup, my thoughts are those providing services such as described above are nothing more than the old fashioned snake oil salesman or, in modern day terms, a rip off and scam artist.

You are right on MsLizzie as anyone can become one just about over night. I have enough common sense to figure out my own problems in life but it is a very popular buzz word right at the moment. I'm sure most of the Hollywood stars are heavy into this.

It really does scare me that with little thought some people are trusting their lives to someone who may be ill trained. Someone with a certificate from the internet.

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angora
The government is now in the process of making it tougher to just hang out a shingle and say that you are a therapist or a life coach or whatever.They are coming to an agreement on standards.

I agree whole heartedly with lizzie.

I could advertise in the paper and say I was a life coach and get people to pay me too and at least I have someuniversity level sociology and psychology courses to back me up but not nearly enough to make me believe that I was competent to take people's lives in my hands.

My best friend is a therapist and she has her masters in social work and continues to educate herself through working weeks here and the USA at colleges and universities She recently gave sessions in Ireland and Croatia.

She is very happy to see that the government is finally taking a little bit of action on the people who jump on this bandwagon.

It would be different if they could do no harm - but - they can.
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ms. lizzie
I feel the necessity to add that not everything can be resolved by common sense. There may be times in people's lives that they need to have some sort of expert guidance and/or treatment. Having said that, there are caregivers such as psychiatrists and/or registered psychologists who have the education, credentials and have been specially and medically trained to treat such people under strict medical guidelines.
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darcie
Ms Lizzie, you are right on. The field is not at all controlled and anyone can call themselves whatever. There is the potential for some pretty serious damage to people who are vulnerable.

I recently took a class in the process of grief, it was given by a person who had her doctorate in psychology, even then I could see that some in the class were not easily able to handle the information given without some very sad memories that were difficult for them to deal with alone, they needed the help of the psychologist who was competent to deal with it.
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january
Well said Angora.

I wonder how many people are going to the thousands of sites like this one?

http://www.jamesthecoach.com/

While the government may be trying to make it harder to hang the shingle, nothing is going to stop these people like James here to continue to operate.


Liz I just saw your post. I don't have any problems right now that I can't solve. In fact life could not be better. My common sense has brought me through thick and thin in life.
While I have never had to seek help from a psychiatrists and/or registered psychologists I can see where others may have to. Nothing wrong with that because they are trained professionals to deal with whatever problem the person is having.


It is the many sites like the above, with probably a location in Thialand or Nigeria that bother me.
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goldengal
Really do not have anything to add, but want to go on record as saying I agree 100% with what has been said so far. I would be interested in knowing what qualifications anyone does have that engages in this type of counselling. Is it just that certificate from the Net? It seems to me I read that we do have a member who is a life skills coach.

Take care,
Pat
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ms. lizzie
QUOTE (january @ Mar 28 2010, 02:05 PM)
...
Liz I just saw your post. I don't have any problems right now that I can't solve. In fact life could not be better. My common sense has brought me through thick and thin in life.
While I have never had to seek help from a psychiatrists and/or registered psychologists I can see where others may have to. Nothing wrong with that because they are trained professionals to deal with whatever problem the person is having.
January, I wasn't implying that you had problems. I was merely posting a "caveat" to my original post to state that not all problems can be solved by common sense and it is in cases and at times such as those that it is prudent that one seek the advice, counsel and treatment of a medically trained and licensed professional.
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january
QUOTE (ms. lizzie @ Mar 28 2010, 01:28 PM)
January, I wasn't implying that you had problems. I was merely posting a "caveat" to my original post to state that not all problems can be solved by common sense and it is in cases and at times such as those that it is prudent that one seek the advice, counsel and treatment of a medically trained and licensed professional.



No problem Liz, as I knew that. I still say that common sense is a persons best guide to life. It has served me well.


By the way Pat all they have to do is take the internet course and whamo they are certified to give advice.

Darcie thanks for your post. You participate in a lot of courses so I am sure you have seen the good and the not so good in teachers.

I just think this is an interesting topic as I really wonder how many people we need in our lives to help us or screw with us ?

I finally found the cost to one of these courses 5 days $875.00.

http://www.ywcatoronto.org/lifeskills_training/coaches_certificatio...

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darcie
QUOTE (january @ Mar 28 2010, 05:39 PM)
No problem Liz, as I knew that. I still say that common sense is a persons best guide to life. It has served me well.


By the way Pat all they have to do is take the internet course and whamo they are certified to give advice.

Darcie thanks for your post. You participate in a lot of courses so I am sure you have seen the good and the not so good in teachers.

I just think this is an interesting topic as I really wonder how many people we need in our lives to help us or screw with us ?

I finally found the cost to one of these courses 5 days $875.00.

http://www.ywcatoronto.org/lifeskills_training/coaches_certificatio...



I paid $10.00 for 10 weeks, it was run by a hospital at the Senior Centre.
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goldengal
"I finally found the cost to one of these courses 5 days $875.00."

I think I'll just have to stay the way I am with all my faults.

Take care,
Pat
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nainai
QUOTE (darcie @ Mar 28 2010, 02:53 PM)
I paid $10.00 for 10 weeks, it was run by a hospital at the Senior Centre.


That's more like it, darcie!

nainai
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Laura
In part...

QUOTE (january @ Mar 28 2010, 05:39 PM)
By the way Pat all they have to do is take the internet course and whamo they are certified to give advice.

Darcie thanks for your post. You participate in a lot of courses so I am sure you have seen the good and the not so good in teachers.

I just think this is an interesting topic as I really wonder how many people we need in our lives to help us or screw with us ?

I finally found the cost to one of these courses 5 days $875.00.

http://www.ywcatoronto.org/lifeskills_training/coaches_certificatio...



Hi January,

A "Lifeskills Coach" is not a degree in itself. It is considered additional training and/or upgrading/learning for an already educated professional.
The Lifeskills coaching program that you referred to teaches the following.
Note that the keyword is facilitating.

QUOTE
Participants in this training program acquire and enhance facilitation skills and learn the basics
of processing group dynamics. Trained facilitators use their skills to increase the
effectiveness of their organization and teams by learning how to engage and process group
dynamics.

Facilitation Series (5 days $575)
• The complete series listed below can be taken in sequence or by topic/date
Introduction to Facilitation (2 days, $310 regular/ $175 students)
• Introduces the benefits and unique qualities of facilitation
Facilitating Meetings (1 day $155 / $100 students)
• Demonstrates how to achieve more effective meetings by engaging groups or teams
Facilitating Problem Solving (1 day $155 / $100 students)
• Applies techniques to facilitate problem solving with groups or teams
Facilitating Consensus Building (1 day $155 / $100 students)
• Provides an understanding of the process of obtaining group consensus


Taking the Lifeskills Coach Training does not train nor qualify one to be a personal coach.
Life Skills Coach training and skills are required by most NOC 4212 occupations.- Community and Social Service Workers

As for James the Coach, he does tell a little bit about himself, but does not mention what qualifications he has other than his personal experience. I can only guess that, if he has clients, he relies on their recommendations for business.
Here he is on U-tube with a different approach.

The course that Darcie took, would be for a person to acquire "Living Skills", not facilitate a group, hence the difference in the costs.

I am not familiar with any course on the Internet that would qualify one to be an instant Personal Coach, although it wouldn't surprise.
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Laura
My curiosity made me do a search on the net.

How to become a Personal Coach

Coach Training Alliance In-house or online training.

Thanks for this topic January...very interesting to me.
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kayrose
QUOTE (Laura @ Mar 29 2010, 10:09 AM)
My curiosity made me do a search on the net.

How to become a Personal Coach

Coach Training Alliance In-house or online training.

Thanks for this topic January...very interesting to me.

Thanks for the information Laura.
but I feel,
someone that has the experience and education is the one that we should be seeking
in such a very important part of our lives.NOT just anyone will do.
The Psychiatrist I WENT to went to med school with my brother and experienced the
same thing I did thus HE WAS A GOD SEND.
KAyrose
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Laura
QUOTE (kayrose @ Mar 29 2010, 12:28 PM)
Thanks for the information Laura.
but I feel,
someone that has the experience and education is the one that we should be seeking
in such a very important part of our lives.NOT just anyone will do.
The Psychiatrist I WENT to went to med school with my brother and experienced the
same thing I did thus HE WAS A GOD SEND.
KAyrose

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Hi Kayrose,

It seems to me that the reason for choosing a Psychiatrist as opposed to a Personal Coach would depend on the degree of emotional/psychiatric problems one might have.
If one feels that all they need is a motivator, then a Personal Coach might do the trick.

My opinion: A responsible Personal Coach would recommend psychiatric/therapy help should he/she find the client unstable.

I've never had the pleasure of either one's services, but I doubt that I would seek a Personal Coach for emotional difficulties; IMHO, I don't think they're qualified.
NOTE: I wanted to post this discussion as it seemed to me that many people are ill-informed about Lifeskills Coaching.
I am a Lifeskills coach which means I am qualified to teach or facilitate a group or class on various subject matters....presently doing so in Computer Technology & Seff Empowerment for Adult Learners.
Cheers...

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Comment by Oneofyou on April 12, 2010 at 1:02pm
Liz, obviously you are not well educated enough to know how to be happy in your life....the company you keep reveals a whole lot about you & your posts say even more than you may realize.

You do have my sympathies.
Comment by Generic on April 12, 2010 at 12:00pm
Au contraire. It is I who made the comment about those who offer life skills coaching to be no more than snake oil salesmen and let me say that I am very educated and very well informed - hence why the comment was made in the first place. LOL However, you are entitled continue on believing these types of scams are fruitful to society. Afterall, those that strongly advocate such fads do so because they are attempting to line their own pockets from those foolish enough to buy into such things. Happy scamming! Ha Ha Ha
Comment by Oneofyou on April 12, 2010 at 10:49am
Thanks for your response Robin.

Yes, I agree about the person who made the comment on a snake oil salesman drawing their own conclusions from faulty information.

Are you still using your skills as a life skills coach?

I am presently teaching a group of adult learners on Self-Empowerment.
The focus is primarily based on Cognitive behaviour & seeing their lights come on is most gratifying.

Laura
Comment by Robin Kilburn on April 1, 2010 at 10:48am
I am a life skills coach.The course I took was very intensive and I enjoyed it. As a life skills coach I was never taught to tell people what to do, but rather work with a person until they had a very clear picture of what they needed to do to make their own best choice..
As for snake oil salesmen and scam artists.The person that said this has never spoken to a life skills coach But has drawn their own conclusions from faulty information that they have been given, and never took the time to research and check it out.

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